Piracy of gaming is a problem that companies are always trying to combat. This week's Submission comes from a very active g1- Kazekawa- as he tackles the subject of piracy in a completely non-biased way. What is your stance on piracy?
This video is so hypocritacal. He says it’s wrong to download copyrighted material and then he uses copyrighted music in his video.
His very point of the video is completely nullified by the the insane amount of hypocracy.
"Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief, religion or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself. For example, an adult telling children not to smoke cigarettes, even though the adult smokes." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
Submitted by Kazekawa on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 9:35pm.
You flamed the original posting of this video with the same comment so allow me to share my same response.
Chordettes - lollipop back in 1958 was a cover of the original song. Oranger (an indie band) covered Mr. Sandman which was made in 1954.
Now why did I choose these 2 songs? Well, allow me to fill you in on how youtube works.
When using music as background music on videos in youtube, you need 3 permissions. The song writer, the performer and the record comapny. Youtube has made agreements with the record companies so that's taken care of. The song writers of both songs used in my videos are dead. The performers for Lollipop have not been a band since 1961 and I am not quite sure if any are still alive. Oranger as mentioned is an indie band who covered a song written by people no longer living.
Music used on youtube and in the manner that it was used in this video and the fact that I am also in Japan and seeing how music DOES NOT have international copyrights... =)
I hope you paid attention this time.
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OMG, in the video you say people shouldn't make up excuses becuase its wrong no matter what and here you are making excuses when in fact your video contains copyright music. Yet another example of hypocracy. We can't download a 20 year old rom, but you can use music so long as you have justifications? At least most of us don't distribut part of a downloaded rom, but just use it privately at home.
It doesn't matter if the original creator is alive or dead, unless the copyright was given up by the owner it's wrong to take and use for your own ends. Oh I forgot you live in Japan so it doesn't count. I bet the people of Korea/Russia/Brazil/etc think piracy is just part of life, but as you argue its still wrong.
Its not like this is the only video you use copyright media in, and I don't care that you do, but this is the only one you say others shouldn't do it while you are in the act of it. I think "fair use" should be expanded and make it easier to do none-profit creative work. I just really hate it when someone tells me what I do is wrong when they don't live by their own standards.
Good night/Good day (depending on the time difference)
Submitted by Kazekawa on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 2:14am.
I understand that you have problems reading things clearly despite them being posted twice to you, so allow me to try a third and final time.
Nothing in my video is hypocracy. The music I used meets the requirements of use on youtube. In fact, the music I specifically goes beyond what I needed to legally use it on youtube.
I never once told you what to do or what not to do, this is something you have consistently created in your own head. My video clearly says that its up for individuals to decide what they should or shouldn't do. Using fractions of songs on youtube (which is legal) for video creations is not the same as ripping a cd and sharing it with everyone nor is it the same as downloading games without paying for them. You are trying to create an arguement that does not hold any weight.
I'll say it again in case you didn't get it yet. Using music in youtube videos (even more so with the music I chose) is legal. Using clips of video games for educational purposes or reviews is legal. Downloading both types of media for your own greedy purposes is NOT legal. This is fact. Now do I ever tell you not to do it? Do I ever say I'll call the "po po" on you? No. If you want to go do something, go ahead and do it. Stop getting all bent out of shape as if I was trying to get you to do something.
The entire purpose of this video was to state entirely correct information and throw some humor into it. You hate being told what to do and I dislike being called a hypocrite when there is no case of hypocracy. Now do us both a favor and drop both false claims of me being a hypocrite and me trying to tell you what to do.
I hope this resolves everything as I can literally not think of any other way to explain this to you.
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Everyone can see it, but you. Ben can see it, but you refuse to acknownlege it. You use copyright meterial in all your videos and shouldn't call others pirates atop a high horse. Let's say hypotheticly that the clips you used in this video fell under fair use. It wouldn't hange the fact that you use music in your other videos. Excuses don't mean you can use someone elses song in your intro to japan now, it just makes you feel better about it. Hell even your signature has copyright images.
Submitted by Kazekawa on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 2:52am.
Not to make you look silly or anything, but Ben was agreeing with me. I am atop no high horse. The music I used was appropriate and if you took the time to check up on youtube rules they pay money to companies for said music to be used in videos. Otherwise every youtube fan made video of a video game, review or otherwise would be removed from their site. I went the extra mile with this video in particular to choose music that could not be debated in the way you are trying to use. As for video game fan art, I did not make my signature and Tifa being used as a signature does in fact fall under SquareEnix's stance on fair use of their characters.
As for my intro song "Funk Fujiyama" the way I use the song is appropriate to Japanese laws (I checked ahead of time) so you really need to stop making these false accusations against me. Again, I cannot be a hypocrite as I never preached for you to do anything in the first place. As for you saying that I make excuses? Since when did fact, laws and practices become excuses? This back and forth between us is really starting to get old and as you are unwilling to take the time to do the research (as I have) or check to see if what I wrote was accurate then I really see no point in continuing this.
If you want to think that what I did was hypocracy (reread the definition please) or that I am making excuses (stating laws and facts) or want to start a whole new topic on fair use laws regarding images (when you have no case and are trying to argue everything at this point) or want to bring up my use of a song in other videos (even though my use of it is ok with Japanese laws) then you are welcomed to do so but I sir am done.
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Submitted by chefprotoss on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 3:38am.
Dude, you lost the argument... uhhhhh... the first time, a week and a half ago. This is a kooky vid that in no way says you shouldn't pirate stuff. It also doesn't pirate anything. This vid is so leagal it's funny. No one cares that you play Street Fighter 2 using your keyboard's z and x buttons. Give it up dude, this debate is much deeper than your shallow comments, which are more childish than this funny(leagal) web video. You have fun doing your hadokens the manual way(236z) and the adults will play on the 360. No one attaked you, so it seems kind of pointless that your playing the role of a rightious victum.
Submitted by Super H4XX0R on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 3:38am.
I have pirated videogames, but only ones I actually owned beforehand. For example: BOTH my SWBF and SWBFII discs are broken (SWBF lost it's data, the SWBFII one has literally a crack in them), and LucasArts is too lazy to respond (I sent them an email about this 2 YEARS Ago.). All I could do is rebuy my games, or redownload them. Since I already own these games, I just redownloaded them: now I technically play a legal illegal game. What a paradox.
For console games: you shouldn't pirate next-gen consoles for the simple reason: you'll get banned off online play, and for me, that's the main reason why I got a console in the first place.
For the older consoles, I agree with the people above me: If there were more shops trading in retro games, we wouldn't be forced to download roms at all.
Submitted by Kazekawa on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 11:41pm.
This was an awesome suprise. Thanks ScrewAttack for the support as well as everyone who has supported me thus far. I look forward to making more videos for you guys in the future ^^.
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Awesome video. I am very much against piracy of any type.I always give my brother grief when he buys a bootleg.
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Submitted by ViewtifulGeo on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:40am.
I think the major problem is all the dead systems with no ability to find games for them.
With the gamestop/eb/gamecrazy types only seeling last gen used games, anything before gc/ps2/xbox is impossible to find.
All your left with is pawn shops and indy chains with anorexic selections. If it weren't for roms, I would have never played terranigma, radiant silvergun, rez, rendering ranger, and the simpsons arcade game.
In a world where supply is way lower than demand, and no one is trading them in because no one will accept them...how can we buy oldschool games?
Submitted by Aussie Dave on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 6:10am.
I was going to write my own long comment. But he said everything I was going to, so just read his comment but in your head think it was also from Aussie Dave lol
Submitted by Psychoknight on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:23pm.
Also on that note, games that old can only be bought through trading and such, so it's not even like the companies that made the game are getting any of the money anyway.
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I'm a game collector. The amount of games I dropped on systems and games is ridiculous. I own maybe 500-600+ and it's still expanding as well as almost every "successful" game console.
But...How are you supposed to enjoy anything that costs too much without the coin? Like PS1 games. I'm not about to spend a hundred bucks on a copy of Valkyrie Profile or Suikoden 2 when those companies don't even make money from the game anymore.
The game industry will be fine. This is like that Napster-Metallica thing. It was bullshit.
Submitted by Bobman32x on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 2:11am.
Well made video but it wont change my stance.
I dont pirate PS2/PS3/Wii/360 games, but I admittadly pirate PSP games. Its just too convinetant. Not to say i dont buy them though. games i really look forward to i do buy, such as God of War, Crisis Core, and Loco Roco, but anything that i only have a vague interest in, i dont buy, but rather download.
I see it more as an extended rental, because when you think about it, when you rent a game, the game companies dont make money from that, and neither does buying games used, and since im not going to buy a game new i dont have a TON of interested, my money wont support them anyway.
But its just psp games. and everything thats before the n64. I dont give a crap about whether the copyright is still in effect or if the game is on the virtual console. Im going to pirate nes, snes, genesis, n64, ect until i dont want to play them anymore. not to mention Ive bought used copies of the ones i play the most anyway, like 5 times. ive owned like 10 versions of Sonic 1, and like 3 versions of ocarina of time.
Think what you will but anything you say isnt going to change my mind. good video, but anyone who pirates already has their mind made up, and nothing any one posted is going to change their mind, atleast until they get caught, which they probably wont be.
The difference is that you can actually get arrested and successfully prosecuted for those. Piracy, on the other hand, is relatively risk-free and demonstrates why we need laws in the first place. For example, if I could shop lift, dine-and-dash and rob banks and get away with it as much as I do with piracy (which I have been known to indulge in from time to time) I would do it every day, and so would A LOT of people.
It's not whether or not you're "ok" with a crime, it's whether or not the crime is something you can be held accountable for. If it isn't, then it's arguable that it isn't even a crime; a good example would be a law in my state that still exists that prohibits a man and woman living together if they are unmarried and unrelated. However, in this day and age the law is never enforced so it might as well not exist. whether or not it's "wrong" is up to you.
Submitted by KingRanger on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 6:36pm.
By your logic if you chopped some one up with an axe, unless you get caught no crime was commited, or at least no crime you can get punished for.
All you guys trying to justify piracy just stop. At least be honest with yourselves. You do it to get free shit. You do not do it for some misguided justification of "the games are hard to find" they arn't, or "The companies don't make money on them anymore" get a life.
Submitted by Prattinator on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 11:30pm.
I think it's extremely hypocritical of you to state that someone isn't being "honest" enough with themselves, considering that the notion of ANYONE being completely honest with themselves is goddamn impossible, especially for a more-than-likely adolescent human being such as yourself, whose more-than-likely hormonal fluctuations include side effects such as confusion and moral/philosophical ambiguity.
Besides, chopping up someone with an axe isn't even relevant in this context. That is a matter of interference with someone else's freedom. I hardly think the downloading of a ROM for a video game that is no longer in production qualifies, in anyone's mind, as a contemporary for murder; you should be ashamed for even comparing the two. Characterizing your opponent in a debate as someone who condones murder is not only a digression from reality and a cheap way out of a real argument, but a way to make yourself look like a stupid cunt as well.
So piss off, and take a good long look at yourself before you start criticizing the integrity of others, and their decisions, like you're on some moral high horse.
Submitted by KingRanger on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 5:56am.
Ah the fall back to the losing side. You start tossing out insults about age and such. It's not worth the effort to say more about that as you are just not worth it.
You have said that using roms and such is just fine. It is stealing and illegal. You also said that if a person doesn't get caught it's not really a crime. My analogy is perfectly legit.
This is no debate in my opinion. Piracy is wrong. Stealing games is wrong. There is no debate here.
The one who would have lost this debate, if in fact it were one, is you. The person who needs to resort to name calling and swearing always loses. So you sir, have lost.
Submitted by Prattinator on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 6:47pm.
Alright, you are pestering me at this point.
The point of a debate is not to shove your opinion down anyone's throat. That is inconsiderate and impolite. It pisses me off when I see people dogging others, simply because they cannot function in the presence of a conflicting opinion without spewing their pretentious bile all over them. Save that for church or something; not Screwattack.
Besides, I mainly replied to you because I didn't like what you said, or more importantly, how you said it. Attacking someone (who was at the VERY LEAST being a respectable participant in the debate), without being polite or backing up your points, is arrogant douchebaggery. I didn't even have an opinion which I felt particularly compelled to share, but your post so disturbed me that I added my own stance in the debate just so I could legitimately protest your asininity.
I somehow lost your point in your grotesque exaggerations about the negative effects of emulation. You overplayed your arguement, and you should know better than to even liken video game piracy to anything involving the LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE. In the context of debate, I'll say I was rather offended by this and sought to let you know just what a jackass you were being.
Also, I used two curse words as an integral part of my prose. There was no "name calling", as I did not ever exclaim that you are a "cunt" without first backing it up.
Submitted by Sonic9jct on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:16pm.
And see, it's thoughts like that that have introduced DRM, region locking, mandatory updates, subscription fees, and killed things like open source, multiple accounts for those who need them, and many other things that only influence you more to steal in the first place.
In the ending you wrote something about if you cant afford games... when you think logically, a person who can´t afford games is doing no harm to the game industry, because he wouldn´t spent money on games anyway. Just a thought...
"A legal Gamer is a happy Gamer"... there lies truth within it. A experience i made, not only from pirating games, more from the internet itself: As more Games someone get, the easier a Player gets Games as lesser fun he will have with each Game. As a Result of this, i stopped the illegal downloading and now i have a bit more fun while playing... still there are so many free (legal) games out there...
Submitted by Sonic9jct on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:18pm.
I agree.
Playing illegal games (I used to be a HUGE emulator) kills any true value the physical game and its gameplay may have. Playing Mega Man 2, Kid Icarus, and SMB3 on a computer with save states and a keyboard were fun, but I just didn't get the hype. It wasn't until I put down the money to sit down in front of my TV with a controller in my hands did I understand why these games were good, even to this day.
Downloading games or burning in virtual hell... i'll go with the hell thing.
Of course it's wrong to pirate games... but what if someone just doesn't have the money and if he wouldn't download the game he wouldn't buy it either? Ok i'm against piracy myself but i play roms and pirated games. I only play Pirated games on my PS2 because it's totaly idiotic to pay for PS2 games nowadays... and if the roms come out on Virtual Console i allways buy them.
Submitted by Psychoknight on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:31pm.
Sure games are less when paid in pound sterlings, but that's cause their worth more. 1 Pound Sterling = 1.27 Euros = 1.59 US Dollars. Paying £35 for a game is the same as $60 for Americans.
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Submitted by MadMikeo14 on Mon, 10/13/2008 - 7:42am.
I understand that conversion rates mean it looks like your paying more, I just like pound sterling... It's so pro! =D
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Submitted by Kazekawa on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 5:16am.
A few weeks ago when ScrewAttack mentioned piracy, you guys crazily started to discuss it. I saw a lot of things said but what struck me as odd is many people thought they "heard" or "read" that certain rules did or did not exist.
I personally do not support piracy but I am also not a poster boy against it. This video came about after I had done research on the topic and while writing a blog I realized how boring it was. So I thought hey, why not make a semi entertaining video to announce what I found, and thus the video was made.
I contacted my "host mother" Kazumi and a few days later the video was finished. Some people have said it falls flat at the end and yea, while the video was meant to be entertaining, there were somethings that needed to be said. I hope that people can enjoy the video for the most part and perhaps one or two learned something along the way.
Just remember though, do not take the video too seriously. In a world with the crime, problems, falling economy and so on, piracy falls towards the end of my list of concerns. That doesn't make it right to do it though but again, it's up to everyone to decide for themselves. People who do pirate though often end up pirating more than just old roms and that does lead to the creation of ridiculous systems on current games which sucks. Penny Arcade brought up the ridiculous systems shortly after my video was released.
Anyway, I am getting too wordy now but again, thanks for those who do support the video and sorry if I bumped too many shoulders for those who do not. You can always count on me for nonsense one way or the other.
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Submitted by mrandyman on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 5:47am.
How's that U.S. economy coming along?...still worried about duplication of software for personal use? Is that why we're in the shit hole? I don't think so. Put things in perspective. We have BUSH (yes that's his real last name) as a president. How is copying games bad? After all, didn't the government so call "pirate" D-Base III from Ashton Tate? Was the government being a hater? Did they do it to hurt anyone? No, not really. Did you ever copy some .EXEs like PKUNZIP and never register? What was that version 2.04G? Probably. Copying anything without adhering to that specific license is "legally" piracy. It's not the size of the product, that matters. If you pirate GTA or a .DLL or a FONT. It's all...what's that word.... __"piracy". You only live once. It's not about the publisher...it's about the artist at the very least. If you think you're really hurting someone by downloading something...think again. Oh and as far as DRM is concerned...DRM servers are being turned off left and right and then we're just little victims. Don't be a victim! Let's enjoy what the artist created and when possible support them. If it's not possible to support them, don't avoid the creation, enjoy it. If you like something...seize the day. I'm not saying download 500 Terra bytes and sell it but come on...if you like a game after downloading it, you can buy that one game. The industry really does depend on one person in the end and it is you: the fan.
Submitted by Kazekawa on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 5:49am.
I really think you failed to read the comment above your own. For you see, I am on no high horse. I specifically wrote above your own comment that I do not consider the problem to be signicant. This video was also made 2 weeks ago long before you likely realized how bad the US economy was doing.
Once again, this video was made in response to a wave of blogs and comments that were on this site... ready... 2 or 3 weeks ago. The video states simple facts and adds some humor to it. Now whether you agree or not with said facts is your own problem to deal with.
The video served its purpose though. Pick a touchy topic and let people go to town on it. In the meantime, I shall be riding around on my high horse that people have created for me ^_^.
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Submitted by Explosivo on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 6:06am.
Here in Sweden piracy is everywhere. Almost everyone I know download movies, mp3, games etc.
It could be because games costs about $100 US or €9-10.
I download some games but when I really want to support the developer with games like No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki or Zelda, Mario, Smash bros. I buy the game.
Submitted by KaiserDragon on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 6:53am.
Not gonna say if I am for it or not, that isnt my point here.
Let's look at music first. Music industries report loss of profit from this, yet last year they had record sells. Movies have had some of the biggest box office sells recently along with very nice dvd sells. Now consoles, wii consoles are still sold out, ps3 sells are up, and xbox sells are steady. Now games themselves, many recent games have also had high sales. GTA4, MGS4, COD4, Orangebox, all nintendo games. Yes pc game sales have dropped but that is because people lean more to consoles now, they release first, need no upgrades, easier to transport, easier to use. Now dont get me wrong, I am a PC gamer. Now then even the fairly new medium of downloadable games are doing well. With all these great sells even in the bad state of economy we have, I dont see how piracy actually hurts any media industry.
So yes it is illegal, but I dont think suing for large amounts of "lost profit" is right either. I believe this is also a form of theft.
Submitted by Sonic9jct on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:22pm.
Well, when Ubisoft doesn't make enough money of off their great games like Prince of Persia, Beyond Good and Evil, or Rainbow Six games, they have to turn to shoveling out games like Petz and Raving Rabbids. That's right, your hardcore games were paid for with the profits of your hated so called "casual" games.
I would buy more games, if they're cheaper. I only buy games for my PS2 or Gamecube, because they cost about 25 Euros or less. I don't accept to buy a game for 50 Euros or more which is done after a few days. Also as a student, i don't have the money anyway.
The problem is when you get companies like EA treating all gamers like crminals by putting things like DRM. Also Now a days you get games coming out incomplete.
I bought Crysis when it came out and what I found was a buggy game that I couldn't get through. When I downloaded it it was not buggy and ran like a dream. I couldn't even install Assassins creed but when I downloaded it I could easily play it. Its just stupid, companies are actually pushing people away from buying their games to piracy.
The old games thing I don't think companies care about, do you think Nintendo really cares that your playing Mega Man 1 on your PC on an emulator. Maybe they might now since their selling it on their virtual market place but before I don't think they minded.
Also I think piracy can advertise certain thing, like I wouldn't know some indie developers without seeing their games on the pirating sites. Also a lot of indie developers said they had better sales from subsequent games because their first game got pirated.
So this can be a very grey area. Its the balance between advertisement, DRM, and total theivery.
I do download pirated games only ds but i do own the respected copy of the game i just donth like to carry 20 games in my pocket thats why i use the ttds on the games hat i have ad oonly carry that
Submitted by Ivan2294 on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 8:53am.
I used to have an illegal SNES emulator, but I don't use it anymore. I download the games off the shop channels even though I have them on my emulator.
Submitted by Psychoknight on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:35pm.
Actually emulators are perfectly legal, it's only the roms that are illegal.
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lol, oh...here it is.
Thank you!
Why? This video is so
Why?
This video is so hypocritacal. He says it’s wrong to download copyrighted material and then he uses copyrighted music in his video.
His very point of the video is completely nullified by the the insane amount of hypocracy.
"Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief, religion or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself. For example, an adult telling children not to smoke cigarettes, even though the adult smokes." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
Again?
You flamed the original posting of this video with the same comment so allow me to share my same response.
Chordettes - lollipop back in 1958 was a cover of the original song. Oranger (an indie band) covered Mr. Sandman which was made in 1954.
Now why did I choose these 2 songs? Well, allow me to fill you in on how youtube works.
When using music as background music on videos in youtube, you need 3 permissions. The song writer, the performer and the record comapny. Youtube has made agreements with the record companies so that's taken care of. The song writers of both songs used in my videos are dead. The performers for Lollipop have not been a band since 1961 and I am not quite sure if any are still alive. Oranger as mentioned is an indie band who covered a song written by people no longer living.
Music used on youtube and in the manner that it was used in this video and the fact that I am also in Japan and seeing how music DOES NOT have international copyrights... =)
I hope you paid attention this time.
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he's right, actually.
he's right, actually.
Making a statment is not a flame.
OMG, in the video you say people shouldn't make up excuses becuase its wrong no matter what and here you are making excuses when in fact your video contains copyright music. Yet another example of hypocracy. We can't download a 20 year old rom, but you can use music so long as you have justifications? At least most of us don't distribut part of a downloaded rom, but just use it privately at home.
It doesn't matter if the original creator is alive or dead, unless the copyright was given up by the owner it's wrong to take and use for your own ends. Oh I forgot you live in Japan so it doesn't count. I bet the people of Korea/Russia/Brazil/etc think piracy is just part of life, but as you argue its still wrong.
Its not like this is the only video you use copyright media in, and I don't care that you do, but this is the only one you say others shouldn't do it while you are in the act of it. I think "fair use" should be expanded and make it easier to do none-profit creative work. I just really hate it when someone tells me what I do is wrong when they don't live by their own standards.
Good night/Good day (depending on the time difference)
I understand
I understand that you have problems reading things clearly despite them being posted twice to you, so allow me to try a third and final time.
Nothing in my video is hypocracy. The music I used meets the requirements of use on youtube. In fact, the music I specifically goes beyond what I needed to legally use it on youtube.
I never once told you what to do or what not to do, this is something you have consistently created in your own head. My video clearly says that its up for individuals to decide what they should or shouldn't do. Using fractions of songs on youtube (which is legal) for video creations is not the same as ripping a cd and sharing it with everyone nor is it the same as downloading games without paying for them. You are trying to create an arguement that does not hold any weight.
I'll say it again in case you didn't get it yet. Using music in youtube videos (even more so with the music I chose) is legal. Using clips of video games for educational purposes or reviews is legal. Downloading both types of media for your own greedy purposes is NOT legal. This is fact. Now do I ever tell you not to do it? Do I ever say I'll call the "po po" on you? No. If you want to go do something, go ahead and do it. Stop getting all bent out of shape as if I was trying to get you to do something.
The entire purpose of this video was to state entirely correct information and throw some humor into it. You hate being told what to do and I dislike being called a hypocrite when there is no case of hypocracy. Now do us both a favor and drop both false claims of me being a hypocrite and me trying to tell you what to do.
I hope this resolves everything as I can literally not think of any other way to explain this to you.
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Everyone can see it, but
Everyone can see it, but you. Ben can see it, but you refuse to acknownlege it. You use copyright meterial in all your videos and shouldn't call others pirates atop a high horse. Let's say hypotheticly that the clips you used in this video fell under fair use. It wouldn't hange the fact that you use music in your other videos. Excuses don't mean you can use someone elses song in your intro to japan now, it just makes you feel better about it. Hell even your signature has copyright images.
As for Ben
Not to make you look silly or anything, but Ben was agreeing with me. I am atop no high horse. The music I used was appropriate and if you took the time to check up on youtube rules they pay money to companies for said music to be used in videos. Otherwise every youtube fan made video of a video game, review or otherwise would be removed from their site. I went the extra mile with this video in particular to choose music that could not be debated in the way you are trying to use. As for video game fan art, I did not make my signature and Tifa being used as a signature does in fact fall under SquareEnix's stance on fair use of their characters.
As for my intro song "Funk Fujiyama" the way I use the song is appropriate to Japanese laws (I checked ahead of time) so you really need to stop making these false accusations against me. Again, I cannot be a hypocrite as I never preached for you to do anything in the first place. As for you saying that I make excuses? Since when did fact, laws and practices become excuses? This back and forth between us is really starting to get old and as you are unwilling to take the time to do the research (as I have) or check to see if what I wrote was accurate then I really see no point in continuing this.
If you want to think that what I did was hypocracy (reread the definition please) or that I am making excuses (stating laws and facts) or want to start a whole new topic on fair use laws regarding images (when you have no case and are trying to argue everything at this point) or want to bring up my use of a song in other videos (even though my use of it is ok with Japanese laws) then you are welcomed to do so but I sir am done.
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Agree
I am absolutely with you kazekawa, he is just a person who can't loose in quarrel :)
Yeah, I was agreeing with
Yeah, I was agreeing with him. Sorry for any confusion lol, but he's got his facts down like dirt... and I'll never use that saying ever again...
Dude, you lost the
Dude, you lost the argument... uhhhhh... the first time, a week and a half ago. This is a kooky vid that in no way says you shouldn't pirate stuff. It also doesn't pirate anything. This vid is so leagal it's funny. No one cares that you play Street Fighter 2 using your keyboard's z and x buttons. Give it up dude, this debate is much deeper than your shallow comments, which are more childish than this funny(leagal) web video. You have fun doing your hadokens the manual way(236z) and the adults will play on the 360. No one attaked you, so it seems kind of pointless that your playing the role of a rightious victum.
Canuck for the win, by the
Canuck for the win, by the way!
Here's a much better and
Here's a much better and actualy amusing commentary on how stupid this whole issue is.
Download what you want. We all know it's against the law so what's the point of telling everyone? If you can't tell the above song is sarcastic.
Great video
I for one am totally against piracy. People worked hard to make those game and it's not right for people to just go download them for free.
I have pirated videogames,
I have pirated videogames, but only ones I actually owned beforehand. For example: BOTH my SWBF and SWBFII discs are broken (SWBF lost it's data, the SWBFII one has literally a crack in them), and LucasArts is too lazy to respond (I sent them an email about this 2 YEARS Ago.). All I could do is rebuy my games, or redownload them. Since I already own these games, I just redownloaded them: now I technically play a legal illegal game. What a paradox.
For console games: you shouldn't pirate next-gen consoles for the simple reason: you'll get banned off online play, and for me, that's the main reason why I got a console in the first place.
For the older consoles, I agree with the people above me: If there were more shops trading in retro games, we wouldn't be forced to download roms at all.
Most people are too stupid
to realize how bad pirating is for the economy, or for that matter to realize how bad the economy is doing.
Good work
Good work you lucky bastard! (in a nice way i mean that of course)
Awesome suprise
This was an awesome suprise. Thanks ScrewAttack for the support as well as everyone who has supported me thus far. I look forward to making more videos for you guys in the future ^^.
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stop
I stop doing that
Nice Vid
Awesome video. I am very much against piracy of any type.I always give my brother grief when he buys a bootleg.
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ah piracy... lol nice one
ah piracy... lol nice one saw it few weeks ago on your channel in youtube. Keep it up Kasekawa
Dead systems
I think the major problem is all the dead systems with no ability to find games for them.
With the gamestop/eb/gamecrazy types only seeling last gen used games, anything before gc/ps2/xbox is impossible to find.
All your left with is pawn shops and indy chains with anorexic selections. If it weren't for roms, I would have never played terranigma, radiant silvergun, rez, rendering ranger, and the simpsons arcade game.
In a world where supply is way lower than demand, and no one is trading them in because no one will accept them...how can we buy oldschool games?
What he said...
I was going to write my own long comment. But he said everything I was going to, so just read his comment but in your head think it was also from Aussie Dave lol
~~~Aussie Dave~~~
Also on that note, games
Also on that note, games that old can only be bought through trading and such, so it's not even like the companies that made the game are getting any of the money anyway.
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100% in agreement
I'm a game collector. The amount of games I dropped on systems and games is ridiculous. I own maybe 500-600+ and it's still expanding as well as almost every "successful" game console.
But...How are you supposed to enjoy anything that costs too much without the coin? Like PS1 games. I'm not about to spend a hundred bucks on a copy of Valkyrie Profile or Suikoden 2 when those companies don't even make money from the game anymore.
The game industry will be fine. This is like that Napster-Metallica thing. It was bullshit.
Yarrr...
Let us remember, our dear friends...the cuttlefish...flippigaloriant little sausages.
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eh....
Well made video but it wont change my stance.
I dont pirate PS2/PS3/Wii/360 games, but I admittadly pirate PSP games. Its just too convinetant. Not to say i dont buy them though. games i really look forward to i do buy, such as God of War, Crisis Core, and Loco Roco, but anything that i only have a vague interest in, i dont buy, but rather download.
I see it more as an extended rental, because when you think about it, when you rent a game, the game companies dont make money from that, and neither does buying games used, and since im not going to buy a game new i dont have a TON of interested, my money wont support them anyway.
But its just psp games. and everything thats before the n64. I dont give a crap about whether the copyright is still in effect or if the game is on the virtual console. Im going to pirate nes, snes, genesis, n64, ect until i dont want to play them anymore. not to mention Ive bought used copies of the ones i play the most anyway, like 5 times. ive owned like 10 versions of Sonic 1, and like 3 versions of ocarina of time.
Think what you will but anything you say isnt going to change my mind. good video, but anyone who pirates already has their mind made up, and nothing any one posted is going to change their mind, atleast until they get caught, which they probably wont be.
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So you are ok with shop
So you are ok with shop lifting, dine and dash, bank robbery? I mean you can't say you arn't.
The difference is that you
The difference is that you can actually get arrested and successfully prosecuted for those. Piracy, on the other hand, is relatively risk-free and demonstrates why we need laws in the first place. For example, if I could shop lift, dine-and-dash and rob banks and get away with it as much as I do with piracy (which I have been known to indulge in from time to time) I would do it every day, and so would A LOT of people.
It's not whether or not you're "ok" with a crime, it's whether or not the crime is something you can be held accountable for. If it isn't, then it's arguable that it isn't even a crime; a good example would be a law in my state that still exists that prohibits a man and woman living together if they are unmarried and unrelated. However, in this day and age the law is never enforced so it might as well not exist. whether or not it's "wrong" is up to you.
By your logic if you chopped
By your logic if you chopped some one up with an axe, unless you get caught no crime was commited, or at least no crime you can get punished for.
All you guys trying to justify piracy just stop. At least be honest with yourselves. You do it to get free shit. You do not do it for some misguided justification of "the games are hard to find" they arn't, or "The companies don't make money on them anymore" get a life.
Incorrect.
I think it's extremely hypocritical of you to state that someone isn't being "honest" enough with themselves, considering that the notion of ANYONE being completely honest with themselves is goddamn impossible, especially for a more-than-likely adolescent human being such as yourself, whose more-than-likely hormonal fluctuations include side effects such as confusion and moral/philosophical ambiguity.
Besides, chopping up someone with an axe isn't even relevant in this context. That is a matter of interference with someone else's freedom. I hardly think the downloading of a ROM for a video game that is no longer in production qualifies, in anyone's mind, as a contemporary for murder; you should be ashamed for even comparing the two. Characterizing your opponent in a debate as someone who condones murder is not only a digression from reality and a cheap way out of a real argument, but a way to make yourself look like a stupid cunt as well.
So piss off, and take a good long look at yourself before you start criticizing the integrity of others, and their decisions, like you're on some moral high horse.
Ah the fall back to the
Ah the fall back to the losing side. You start tossing out insults about age and such. It's not worth the effort to say more about that as you are just not worth it.
You have said that using roms and such is just fine. It is stealing and illegal. You also said that if a person doesn't get caught it's not really a crime. My analogy is perfectly legit.
This is no debate in my opinion. Piracy is wrong. Stealing games is wrong. There is no debate here.
The one who would have lost this debate, if in fact it were one, is you. The person who needs to resort to name calling and swearing always loses. So you sir, have lost.
Alright, you are pestering
Alright, you are pestering me at this point.
The point of a debate is not to shove your opinion down anyone's throat. That is inconsiderate and impolite. It pisses me off when I see people dogging others, simply because they cannot function in the presence of a conflicting opinion without spewing their pretentious bile all over them. Save that for church or something; not Screwattack.
Besides, I mainly replied to you because I didn't like what you said, or more importantly, how you said it. Attacking someone (who was at the VERY LEAST being a respectable participant in the debate), without being polite or backing up your points, is arrogant douchebaggery. I didn't even have an opinion which I felt particularly compelled to share, but your post so disturbed me that I added my own stance in the debate just so I could legitimately protest your asininity.
I somehow lost your point in your grotesque exaggerations about the negative effects of emulation. You overplayed your arguement, and you should know better than to even liken video game piracy to anything involving the LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE. In the context of debate, I'll say I was rather offended by this and sought to let you know just what a jackass you were being.
Also, I used two curse words as an integral part of my prose. There was no "name calling", as I did not ever exclaim that you are a "cunt" without first backing it up.
Cunt.
Go Go Troll Rangers!
Go Go Troll Rangers!
That you assume my name has
That you assume my name has anything to do with power rangers is just a lame assumption on your part.
And see, it's thoughts like
And see, it's thoughts like that that have introduced DRM, region locking, mandatory updates, subscription fees, and killed things like open source, multiple accounts for those who need them, and many other things that only influence you more to steal in the first place.
Hahaha the PSP, it HAD to be
Hahaha the PSP, it HAD to be on a piracy video!
Cute Japanese girl + "HULK
Cute Japanese girl + "HULK SMASH" = WIN
Affording games
In the ending you wrote something about if you cant afford games... when you think logically, a person who can´t afford games is doing no harm to the game industry, because he wouldn´t spent money on games anyway. Just a thought...
"A legal Gamer is a happy Gamer"... there lies truth within it. A experience i made, not only from pirating games, more from the internet itself: As more Games someone get, the easier a Player gets Games as lesser fun he will have with each Game. As a Result of this, i stopped the illegal downloading and now i have a bit more fun while playing... still there are so many free (legal) games out there...
I agree. Playing illegal
I agree.
Playing illegal games (I used to be a HUGE emulator) kills any true value the physical game and its gameplay may have. Playing Mega Man 2, Kid Icarus, and SMB3 on a computer with save states and a keyboard were fun, but I just didn't get the hype. It wasn't until I put down the money to sit down in front of my TV with a controller in my hands did I understand why these games were good, even to this day.
starts off good..
but falls flat at the end..
I can't say i have a strong
I can't say i have a strong stance against Video Game Downloading, but saying that i have never done it once in my life, so who cares right?
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Piracy
i have never downloaded "illegally" games from interwebs.
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Downloading games or burning in virtual hell... i'll go with the hell thing.
Of course it's wrong to pirate games... but what if someone just doesn't have the money and if he wouldn't download the game he wouldn't buy it either? Ok i'm against piracy myself but i play roms and pirated games. I only play Pirated games on my PS2 because it's totaly idiotic to pay for PS2 games nowadays... and if the roms come out on Virtual Console i allways buy them.
is true that i have some pirated games but
i am not favor in piracy.
if at least they raise down the prices here, themi could buy some games.
100 bucks per game, thats crazy man
True...
Same here, 80-90 bucks for a game...
I mean they need to make money, but it's just too much for a 17 year old to buy some games.
dude
where you from?
Are you serious? Over here
Are you serious? Over here it's around 65-70 euros for a console game, and 50-55 for PC games.
WTF?!
Yes Console games are around 65-70 Euros (PS360) and 40-60 (Wii)
But PC games are regulary 30-50
Lol
Get pound sterling TBH... Wii games for £30-35/ PC for £20-35/ PS2 for £20-25/ PS3 & 360 for £35-45...
Oh, how I love Scotland... But yea, piracy FTL...
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Conversion rates
Sure games are less when paid in pound sterlings, but that's cause their worth more. 1 Pound Sterling = 1.27 Euros = 1.59 US Dollars. Paying £35 for a game is the same as $60 for Americans.
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Conversion rates
I understand that conversion rates mean it looks like your paying more, I just like pound sterling... It's so pro! =D
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Video Game Piracy
A few weeks ago when ScrewAttack mentioned piracy, you guys crazily started to discuss it. I saw a lot of things said but what struck me as odd is many people thought they "heard" or "read" that certain rules did or did not exist.
I personally do not support piracy but I am also not a poster boy against it. This video came about after I had done research on the topic and while writing a blog I realized how boring it was. So I thought hey, why not make a semi entertaining video to announce what I found, and thus the video was made.
I contacted my "host mother" Kazumi and a few days later the video was finished. Some people have said it falls flat at the end and yea, while the video was meant to be entertaining, there were somethings that needed to be said. I hope that people can enjoy the video for the most part and perhaps one or two learned something along the way.
Just remember though, do not take the video too seriously. In a world with the crime, problems, falling economy and so on, piracy falls towards the end of my list of concerns. That doesn't make it right to do it though but again, it's up to everyone to decide for themselves. People who do pirate though often end up pirating more than just old roms and that does lead to the creation of ridiculous systems on current games which sucks. Penny Arcade brought up the ridiculous systems shortly after my video was released.
Anyway, I am getting too wordy now but again, thanks for those who do support the video and sorry if I bumped too many shoulders for those who do not. You can always count on me for nonsense one way or the other.
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a lil copying, a lil buying, it's all good...
How's that U.S. economy coming along?...still worried about duplication of software for personal use? Is that why we're in the shit hole? I don't think so. Put things in perspective. We have BUSH (yes that's his real last name) as a president. How is copying games bad? After all, didn't the government so call "pirate" D-Base III from Ashton Tate? Was the government being a hater? Did they do it to hurt anyone? No, not really. Did you ever copy some .EXEs like PKUNZIP and never register? What was that version 2.04G? Probably. Copying anything without adhering to that specific license is "legally" piracy. It's not the size of the product, that matters. If you pirate GTA or a .DLL or a FONT. It's all...what's that word.... __"piracy". You only live once. It's not about the publisher...it's about the artist at the very least. If you think you're really hurting someone by downloading something...think again. Oh and as far as DRM is concerned...DRM servers are being turned off left and right and then we're just little victims. Don't be a victim! Let's enjoy what the artist created and when possible support them. If it's not possible to support them, don't avoid the creation, enjoy it. If you like something...seize the day. I'm not saying download 500 Terra bytes and sell it but come on...if you like a game after downloading it, you can buy that one game. The industry really does depend on one person in the end and it is you: the fan.
Thanks,
Andy
Hmm
I really think you failed to read the comment above your own. For you see, I am on no high horse. I specifically wrote above your own comment that I do not consider the problem to be signicant. This video was also made 2 weeks ago long before you likely realized how bad the US economy was doing.
Once again, this video was made in response to a wave of blogs and comments that were on this site... ready... 2 or 3 weeks ago. The video states simple facts and adds some humor to it. Now whether you agree or not with said facts is your own problem to deal with.
The video served its purpose though. Pick a touchy topic and let people go to town on it. In the meantime, I shall be riding around on my high horse that people have created for me ^_^.
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you're right
I didn't read your post before my post. I just watched the video and then posted without reading any other (including your) post. Cool.
PLUS I like it when you post because there's always a hot chick with really big boobs that fills my screen. Thanks again.
Again, I enjoyed your video but don't enjoy any extreme views towards or against piracy. :P
Agree
Nicely said Andy, in both posts ;-)
Here in Sweden piracy is
Here in Sweden piracy is everywhere. Almost everyone I know download movies, mp3, games etc.
It could be because games costs about $100 US or €9-10.
I download some games but when I really want to support the developer with games like No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki or Zelda, Mario, Smash bros. I buy the game.
Good job
Well done, Kaze! Ha ha! It was also pretty funny.
free games for all
yaaaaaaay
Piracy does it really effect sells?
Not gonna say if I am for it or not, that isnt my point here.
Let's look at music first. Music industries report loss of profit from this, yet last year they had record sells. Movies have had some of the biggest box office sells recently along with very nice dvd sells. Now consoles, wii consoles are still sold out, ps3 sells are up, and xbox sells are steady. Now games themselves, many recent games have also had high sales. GTA4, MGS4, COD4, Orangebox, all nintendo games. Yes pc game sales have dropped but that is because people lean more to consoles now, they release first, need no upgrades, easier to transport, easier to use. Now dont get me wrong, I am a PC gamer. Now then even the fairly new medium of downloadable games are doing well. With all these great sells even in the bad state of economy we have, I dont see how piracy actually hurts any media industry.
So yes it is illegal, but I dont think suing for large amounts of "lost profit" is right either. I believe this is also a form of theft.
Well, when Ubisoft doesn't
Well, when Ubisoft doesn't make enough money of off their great games like Prince of Persia, Beyond Good and Evil, or Rainbow Six games, they have to turn to shoveling out games like Petz and Raving Rabbids. That's right, your hardcore games were paid for with the profits of your hated so called "casual" games.
If people steal from the
If people steal from the game companies I hope those companies sue the asses off the thieves. Piracy hurts all companies that suffer from it.
Well
I would buy more games, if they're cheaper. I only buy games for my PS2 or Gamecube, because they cost about 25 Euros or less. I don't accept to buy a game for 50 Euros or more which is done after a few days. Also as a student, i don't have the money anyway.
The problem Is
The problem is when you get companies like EA treating all gamers like crminals by putting things like DRM. Also Now a days you get games coming out incomplete.
I bought Crysis when it came out and what I found was a buggy game that I couldn't get through. When I downloaded it it was not buggy and ran like a dream. I couldn't even install Assassins creed but when I downloaded it I could easily play it. Its just stupid, companies are actually pushing people away from buying their games to piracy.
The old games thing I don't think companies care about, do you think Nintendo really cares that your playing Mega Man 1 on your PC on an emulator. Maybe they might now since their selling it on their virtual market place but before I don't think they minded.
Also I think piracy can advertise certain thing, like I wouldn't know some indie developers without seeing their games on the pirating sites. Also a lot of indie developers said they had better sales from subsequent games because their first game got pirated.
So this can be a very grey area. Its the balance between advertisement, DRM, and total theivery.
If you check out your local
If you check out your local flea market you should be able to fine a few game shops that sells old games.
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Ok im half way ok with this video
I do download pirated games only ds but i do own the respected copy of the game i just donth like to carry 20 games in my pocket thats why i use the ttds on the games hat i have ad oonly carry that
I have an emulator...
I used to have an illegal SNES emulator, but I don't use it anymore. I download the games off the shop channels even though I have them on my emulator.
The only legal part
Actually emulators are perfectly legal, it's only the roms that are illegal.
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